Published on Nov 26, 1997
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AlwaysJB – /join #divas_galore
#divas_galore:
@divabot
-AlwaysJB
-RSTLNE
divabot – o+ AlwaysJB
RSTLNE – Howdy.
AlwaysJB – Hi. Cold night.
RSTLNE – It’s getting warmer here in Australia.
AlwaysJB – Oh.
RSTLNE – So let’s get to it. The Divabot set the topic to
Let’s Talk About Love.
AlwaysJB – With an album title like that, you know what’s
coming.
RSTLNE – (nods) Celine Dion will never change.
AlwaysJB – Well,
Celine Dion and
D’eux were quite excellent concept albums.
RSTLNE – She only used like three producers then. This new one
has a billion, give or take ten million. It really takes away
coherence, she sounds WAY oversung and overproduced. I hate
that.
Divabot sings: “There’s no me, without you, there’s no meaning
to life, without you”
AlwaysJB – So what else is wrong here?
RSTLNE – Well, there’s nothing >wrong< with Sea-Lion. It’s
just that, she’s getting boring and predictable.
AlwaysJB – The one with Barbra Streisand in it is nice. I like
the way Babs enters, lush, just like marmalade. Celine’s voice …
well, how can I put this …
RSTLNE – All those years of singing the wrong way is finally
starting to show in her voice. Did you HEAR those straining notes
in “The Reason”? I shiver to think of what it will sound like in
the next album. I’m kinda surprised it happened to her before it
happened to Whitney Houston. Good singing. You ain’t born with it,
you’re trained into it. They never learn.
AlwaysJB – But I really like some of the songs. “Us” is a good
rock ballad, almost as good as “The Reason”. “Treat Her Like A
Lady” is much funkier than her last effort at reggae “Make You
Happy”, I love that rap-chorus she’s doing. One thing about
Sea-Lion, she isn’t afraid of doing all sorts of styles.
RSTLNE – Did you know? She’s in the writer’s credits.
AlwaysJB – NOO!!! Celine Dion WROTE something???
RSTLNE – With two other people, but it’s a start. Scandalous in
a deliciously promising sort of way! But there’s no way to know how
influencial she was.
AlwaysJB – There’s hope for her yet.
RSTLNE – Gawds, “I Hate You Then I Love You” is coming on.
AlwaysJB – Why? It’s a nice collaboration. It sounds very
moonlight-and-champagne-ish. Pavarotti did always make the best
duets.
RSTLNE – Their voices DON’T MESH!!! It’s like that Deloris
O’Riordan “Ave Maria” mess he did for the Children of Bosnia
concert. The lyrics are really stupid, too.
AlwaysJB – (gently) RSTLNE … you don’t listen to fluff for the
lyrics. “How Do I Live”, you know?
RSTLNE – BRB, my husband is looking for his keys again.
AlwaysJB – ‘Kay.
Divabot sings: “You don’t need diamond rings or eighteen carat
gold, fancy cars that go very fast you know they never last no
no”
AlwaysJB – I LOVE that song …
RSTLNE – Hey, I’m back, they were in the freezer. What song?
AlwaysJB – “Express Yourself” by Madonna. Anyway, you were
saying?
RSTLNE – Fluffy lyrics. Talk about “Let’s Talk About Love”.
AlwaysJB – It’s very “Heal the World”-ish. Not better, not
worse. That song doesn’t do a lot for me. I’ve never liked those
sort of songs, they sound so FAKED!!!
RSTLNE – The album doesn’t do a lot for me.
AlwaysJB – There has to be SOMETHING you like in the album.
RSTLNE – “Immortality” is an excellent collaboration. I never
liked the Bee Gees by themselves but I like it when they
collaborate with someone else.
AlwaysJB – Their backing vocals are terrific. All that harmony.
This time I wasn’t turned off by that falsetto.
RSTLNE – “My Heart Will Go On” is OK, it’s one of her better
ballads … which is saying a lot.
AlwaysJB – a LOT.
RSTLNE – “Why Oh Why”, “Be The Man”, “Where Is The Love” are all
Vanessa Williams-style fillers. I can’t quite believe her producers
don’t get how utterly BORING she sounds.
AlwaysJB – “Love is On the Way” is right out of
Celine Dion and that’s why I like it. It doesn’t compare to
“Nothing Broken But My Heart” or anything, but still I like that
chorus, She should use more choruses, she knows how to sing with
them.
RSTLNE – Did we cover it pretty much? “Amar Haciendo El Amor”.
Of all the great Spanish or Tejano songs out there, why did she
pick THAT?
AlwaysJB – I agree. Well, maybe the lyrics are good but then
again; not all listeners know Spanish. It’s very authentic but it
doesn’t have that Sea-Lion Touch.
RSTLNE – You know, I used to like Celine Dion a lot. But as I
grew up, she didn’t grow up with me.
AlwaysJB – Carbon-copy albums. I wonder what the critics will
say?
RSTLNE – They’ll have a field day. But my opinion with Dion is
that I’d much rather buy her singles than her albums. Now excuse me
while I help my honey with his jumper cables.
AlwaysJB – Something’s burning in the oven.
RSTLNE – Celine Dion’s career?
AlwaysJB – Don’t start flattering her. 🙂
RSTLNE – 🙂
AlwaysJB – /quit